Fauci admitted his relief at the departure of former President Donald Trump and assured that it is “liberating” to be able to speak clearly about what science says about COVID-19.
Dr. Anthony Fauci describes an exciting year as an advisor to former President Donald Trump on the COVID-19 pandemic, assuring that he was even faced with death threats.
The physician has spent nearly 40 years as director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, leading one of the major research institutions in the United States. But he was also the adviser to seven presidents, from Ronald Reagan to now Joe Biden, a figure who is called upon every time a health crisis threatens to inform the government, address the World Health Organization, testify before Congress or the media. .
Fauci assures that 2020 was disastrous not only because of the pandemic and global devastation COVID-19 caused in the United States and worldwide, but because it was an enemy of the nation for Trump and his supporters.
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Trump supporters chanted “Fire Fauci,” and the president openly considered the possibility of doing so. He was accused of inventing the virus and of being part of a secret cabal along with Bill Gates and George Soros to take advantage of vaccines. His family was threatened with death. On January 21, in his first press appearance during Biden’s reign, Dr. Fauci once again the ‘liberating sense’ of power, ‘coming here and talking about what you know – about the evidence, about science – and knowing that’s it, letting science speak. “

The physician has spent nearly 40 years as director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, leading one of the major research institutions in the United States. But he was also the adviser to seven presidents, from Ronald Reagan to now Joe Biden. AFP photo
The New York Times published an interview in which Fauci describes all the difficulties he had working with President Trump, here’s a summary of the publication:
When did you first realize things were going wrong between you and President Trump?
It very much coincided with the rapid escalation of cases in the northeast of the country, especially in the New York metropolitan area. I tried to express the seriousness of the situation, and the president’s response always tended to be, “Well, isn’t it that serious?” And I said, “Yeah, it’s very serious.” And the other thing that worried me a lot was that it was clear he was getting information from people who called him, I don’t know who, people he knew in the business, said, ‘Hey, I heard about this drug, is not that great? Or, “Boy, this restorative plasma is really phenomenal.” And I was trying to calmly explain to him, you know, that you can find out if something works by doing a good clinical trial, you get the information, you do a peer review And he’d say, “Oh, no, no, no, no, no, these things really work.” Your opinion – no data, just anecdote – that something could be really important would be taken just as seriously. It was always, “A man called me, a friend of mine, blah, blah, blah.” At that point, my anxiety started to build up.
Did you have a problem with him in the first three years of your presidency?
No, he hardly knew who I was. The first time I met him was in September 2019, when they asked me to go to the White House, put on my white coat and stay there while he signed an executive order regarding something about the flu. From January, February 2020, it was an intense participation; I went to the White House very, very often.
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Last February was a time when things changed. Alex Azar headed the White House Special Committee on Coronavirus, and suddenly it was Mike Pence who did it, and President Trump was onstage to answer questions and argue with reporters. What happened?
To be honest, I don’t know. We had, you know, the kind of standard meetings based on science and public health. So I started to worry that this was not going in the right direction: the anecdotal situations, the triviality, the president surrounded himself with people saying things that didn’t make scientific sense. We would say things like, “This is an outbreak. Infectious diseases run their own course if no action is taken ”. And then he got up and started talking about, “It’s going away, it’s magic, it’s going to disappear.” It was then that it became clear to me: I am not going to go out proactively and contradict what the president said. But he said something that was clearly wrong, and then a reporter said, “Let’s listen to Dr. Fauci.” I had to get up and say, “No, I’m sorry, I don’t think that’s the case.” Not that I like to argue with the President of the United States. I have a lot of respect for the position. But I made the decision that I had to do. Otherwise, I would compromise my own integrity and send a false message to the world. If he didn’t say anything, it would be almost tacit approval that what he said was right. That’s when I started having problems. The people around him, his inner circle, were quite upset that I dared to publicly contradict the president. Then we began to delve into things that seemed unfortunate and somewhat nefarious, such as allowing Peter Navarro to write an editorial in USA Today, in which he said that I am wrong about most of the things I say. Or have the White House press service send you a detailed list of the things I said that turned out to be untrue, all nonsensical because they were all true. The same news agency that made the decision whether I could go to a TV show or talk to you.

Donald Trump did not allow Fauci to report transparently on the pandemic. AFP photo
At one point Trump himself yelled at him or said, “What are you doing to me?”
There were a few times when I made a statement that was a pessimistic view of the direction we were going, and the president called me and said, ‘Hey, why aren’t you more positive? You have to have a positive attitude. Why are you so negative? Be more positive ”.
When did the death threats start?
Oops. Many, many months ago. In spring. Wait, bear with me. [Consulta a alguien que responde “28 de marzo”] So there you have it, from the chief of my secret service. It was when I got the protection, so maybe two weeks before that. It was the intimidation of my wife, and especially my children, that bothered me more than anything. They knew where my children worked, where they lived. The threats came straight to my kids’ phones, straight to their homes. How did these idiots get that information? And there were conversations on the internet, people were talking to each other, threatening and saying, “Hey, we have to get rid of this guy. What are we going to do with it? It hurts the president’s chances ”. You know, that kind of madness on the right.
Have you ever been shot or confronted?
No, but one day I received a letter in the mail, I opened it and a cloud of dust fell on my face and chest. That was very disturbing to me and my wife, because she was in my office. So I saw everything about myself and I said, “What do I do?” The security team was there, and they have a lot of experience with that. They said, “Don’t move, stay in the room.” And they called the hazmat people. So they came in, sprayed me and everything.
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Have you tested the dust?
Yes, it was a benign nothing. But it was terrifying. My wife and children were more upset than I was. I looked at him with a certain fatalism. It had to be one of three things: a hoax. Or anthrax, which meant she would have to take Cipro for a month. Or if it was ricin it was dead, so goodbye.
Have you ever thought of quitting?
Never. Never. No.
Has your wife ever suggested that you quit?
She began to think about it. He is an incredibly wise person, of course he knows me better than anyone else in the world. He said, “Would you like to have a conversation to weigh the pros and cons of what you would achieve?” And after a chat she finally agreed with me. I always felt that if I left, the picnic skunk would no longer be at the picnic. Even if getting everyone to change their mind wasn’t very effective, I thought it important that they knew they couldn’t talk nonsense without my objection. I think in the big picture I thought it would be better for the country and the cause if I stayed instead of leaving.

The epidemiologist even received death threats. AFP photo
What are you going to do now? Four more years with President Biden?
I do not know. At the moment I don’t think about how many years that will take. My entire professional life has been fighting pandemics, from the early years of HIV, flu, Ebola, Zika or whatever. This is what I do. We are going through a historic pandemic unlike anything we have seen in 102 years. I think what I contribute is something that has a lot of added value. I want to keep doing it until we squash this outbreak so people can get back to normal. And even after that, I left some unfinished business. There is still HIV, to which I have devoted most of my professional life. I want to continue the work we do on the flu, HIV, malaria and tuberculosis. Like I said, this is what I do.
Let me ask you: do you think Donald Trump cost the country tens or hundreds of thousands of lives?
I cannot comment on that. People always ask that and… make such a direct link, it gets very devastating. I just want to stay away from it. Sorry.
First press conference with Biden: “completely transparent and fair”.
Biden is the seventh president of the United States to advise Fauci, who has led the NIAID since 1984 and is one of the most respected figures in the country’s scientific community, a fame that has only grown during the pandemic.
During his first press conference led by Biden, Fauci thanked the new president for instructing him to be “completely transparent and fair”.
“One of the new things in this administration is that if we don’t know the answer, we don’t have to make an assumption. We’re just saying we don’t know the answer, ”he said.
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During the press conference, Fauci also assured that for now there is no confirmation that the South African variant of covid-19 has reached the United States, while the British are already present in about 20 states.
Everything indicates that the vaccines administered in the United States and other countries protect against these new variants, but if injectable preparations have to be modified, this process “will not be too arduous,” he calculated.

Fauci assures that 2020 was disastrous not only because of the pandemic and global havoc COVID-19 caused in the United States and worldwide, but because it was an enemy of the nation for Trump and his supporters. AFP photo
According to Johns Hopkins University, the United States is the country in the world most affected by the pandemic in absolute terms, with more than 408,000 deaths and 24.5 million infections.
Biden presented his strategy on Thursday to accelerate the response to the pandemic, though he acknowledged that it will take months to “ reverse ” the situation he has inherited from Trump.